"Why do you think friendship breakups hurt more than romantic breakups?"

This is what actress Heart Evangelista recently asked her husband, politician Chiz Escudero, in their "Adulting" vlog on YouTube.

Chiz maintained both are equally painful for him. 

"Being apart, breaking up with a true friend; being apart, breaking up with a person you love - whether it's family or someone romantically related to you, they would certainly both hurt at the same level, for me," he said.

But Heart thinks otherwise, pointing out: "Mas masasaktan ako sa friendship.

She related: "I've always been an outsider in school. I've always been, like, misunderstood, I guess. So whenever I had just, like, key people, I would really, like, I literally would tell them that I couldn't live without them."

Though she feels, that was where she went wrong.

"Because I should have, you know, went to you instead of them," Heart told Chiz.

"...But going back to the question, it's yes for me. It's painful because I never treat my friends like friends. I treat them like family, you know. So that's why when you treat them like family, they know the good and the bad because you're confident that they saw your heart first right. So it's painful for me because when I rant about - I can't rant to my husband about him, right - I rant to my friends about my husband or whatever. So for me it's painful because it's like I wrote all my thoughts on a diary and they just stole it. So for me friendships are hard."

Does she think difficulty reveal true friends?

Heart believes the opposite.

"I used to think when you're down, people who are with you, that when you're down are the ones that truly love you. It's actually the opposite when you're up and you're doing very well, it's the opposite. How do I say? It's lonely... so you want to always be with people but then they don't really focus on you. Which is normal for a person. I don't take it against them or, I mean, I don't take it against anyone that would, you know, want more in life. But I feel like it is the opposite. It's not true when you're down that's when you know who your real friends are. It's when you're up there is when you know who your real friends are for me."

Chiz feels the same way.

He explained: "When you're on stage and in the spotlight, you sometimes feel alone. You feel alone because you don't believe or think that the audience is actually part of the whole show. When you're watching, you don't have the spotlight on you, you feel alone too because you're not watching with anyone. When in fact those on stage and the other people watching, even if you don't know them, are actually part of what you're doing; attending the show and being part of something great."

Chiz pointed out that circumstances should not dictate how someone feels.

"You should always have joy and peace regardless of your circumstances," he said. "You may be the audience, you may be the one on stage, you may be the one in the spotlight, you may not have a spotlight, but at the end of the day, it's how you view your circumstance and your location and what you're doing, which will dictate whether or not you will be happy."

Heart admitted how she feels like she's a "lemon."

"You know, like, a factory reject. Honestly, I really do. Like, I really feel like there's something wrong with me or maybe, like, I thought I was made for something but maybe I'm not."

Chiz comforted Heart, reiterating that "nobody is perfect" at the end of the day.

"They say when there's a defect it's called lemon, but at the end of the day, nobody is perfect. Everybody is lemon."

Heart replied: "I know that, but I guess, like, when you're really in a stage where everybody's watching you, you feel that - I'm not pertaining to anyone - I guess in general. That's why people like to keep their circles small because, you know, you rant about your situation when you're tired or, you know, people around get competitive, you feel the pressure. Then you start to drown and you reveal, like, your fears and your insecurities..."

Chiz interjected, reminding Heart she's the only one who can truly define who she is.

"What you will do or not do should not be dictated by your perceived competitor or opponent, whether in politics or in business or in showbiz. So you just keep at what you're doing, what you do best, regardless of what's out there," he stressed. "Again, not being dictated by the circumstances of what's going on around you."

Heart cleared, on the other hand, that she was never really "dictated," noting that she really "enjoyed" what she was doing.

"I never really looked at the left, right, back. I'm not even in front. I was just really living, you know," was how she put it.

Meanwhile, Heart and Chiz also shared their two cents about outgrowing people in their lives.

"I always believe, I don't know, maybe I'm naive or gullible or stupid, actually, maybe. I never believed in outgrowing people," Heart said.

According to her, she always wanted to be with the same people.

"That's why I take a lot of pictures because I feel like it's all right now to print these pictures and frame them because they'll forever be there. But someone once told me that it's not true. That people come and go. Whatever, I've always believed that everybody can be together forever. But it is what it is."

She thinks Chiz is the type of person that's "very realistic" and that people can come and go, that's life.

For her, communication is important.

"It's the same with marriage. Sometimes you do outgrow each other, sometimes you want other things. But what will keep it together is you have to be open and talk to each other. It's the same with friendship. If you're the type that wanted to stay, you all should have, like, an open relationship and completely talk about each other - the good and the bad. I'm not for separate lives," she declared.

Chiz, on the other hand, doesn't think "outgrowing" is the correct adjective to use when someone "moves on."

"Because, at the end of the day, whoever you met, whoever you were, whoever you knew, whoever became your friend is part of who you are and that's why where you are right now. So you don't really outgrow them, you just grow with them, sometimes without them. But they will always be a part of you, yeah, and good or bad. It will always be part of who you are. So you don't simply outgrow them whenever you move on, you grow with them as part of your growth, some good, some bad."

The two also discussed dealing with betrayal.

Chiz said it never feels good for both camps.

He maintained: "Because in order to be betrayed, you have to trust first. You can never be betrayed by a person you never trusted. You can never be betrayed by a person who's not close to you. And the only person who can do that is someone that close, someone you trusted. The only people that can hurt are the ones close to you and the ones that you trust."

That's why, he thinks Heart should limit the people she allows into her life, into her heart.

"It's so hard to do that," she responded.

Chiz replied: "It's difficult but that's how you should do it in order not to be as hurt anymore."

She added in jest. "I know. Ako nga, naghuhubad pa ako sa harapan nila, dedma ako e. Yeah, gets. I don't even know. I don't even have an answer to that. I'm still on the process of it all. I'm just, you know, living as we speak. So hindi mo ako pwedeng iwanan. Sinasabi ko sayo kailangan lagi kang nanduon."