Carla Humphries and Raymond Gutierrez finally divulged details surrounding their much-gossiped "Cam Sur scandal."
It was basically Raymond locking lips with Carla while at a party.
The incident made the news, painting Carla a "wild girl."
In an interview with Wil Dasovich, Raymond, who has since come out as gay, reiterated that at the time he was "flirty" with his "girlfriends."
"Because they do enjoy the attention and I guess it's just like, 'Okay, if you enjoy the attention, I'll give it to you,'" he jested.
But turning serious, he thinks they were open to the idea because they really feel "comfortable" around him.
"And they tend to flirt with me in public and put their arms around me, get touchy, feely. So, I'm like, 'Okay, fine.'"
As to the actual kiss, he said, "We just kissed and it was caught on camera and it was slow news week that week. It was on primetime news and I kid you not, literally it was on 'TV Patrol,' it was in '24 Oras,' it was in 'DZMM.'"
"Honestly, I felt like I was just drunk and Mads (Carla) was there, that was, like, all the boys wanted to hit on her and I was like, I just want to give everyone a show to all the guys, like, 'This is what you can't do.'"
Carla, on her part, complimented Raymond, relating how "handsome" he is and a "good kisser."
"Honestly, I think we both mutually enjoyed the moment," she said.
"We did. It was hot," Raymond agreed. "It was, like, this big beach weekend with all the celebrities, all the models. And it was like really fun. A lot of people were there to, like, 'Okay, let's hook up.' You know what I mean?"
They are now the best of friends and Raymond cleared they don't kiss anymore.
"That was the first and last time," he said.
Carla went on to share how Raymond was still figuring his sexuality back then.
"There were so many speculations if he was gay or not. And at that point, Mon was just like figuring things out," she related.
Raymond interjected: "Yeah, I think, at that time, I still didn't come to terms with it and I was still trying to figure myself out. Obviously, in the back of my head, I knew but, like, I was 99.9 %, and then kissing Mads, I became a hundred percent."
Wil then asked Raymond if he ever made out with other girls that time.
Carla butted in: "Can I just tell you, after that event, we had dinner and all our friends started laughing at me and they were like, 'Hello, girl, lahat na kami nakipaghalikan na kay Mon.'"
"Yeah, I think at the time it was kind of just like normal," added Raymond.
Wil then quipped: "Dude that's such a hack being gay."
Raymond proudly shared that a lot of his guy friends were "very, very jealous" of him after it became public.
"And I kind of put it in their face to make them jealous," he said.
Raymond also revealed how he has seen most of his girlfriends topless.
"You know, they would change in front of me," he said, relating that back then they would travel and share a room together.
But now, Raymond reiterates it's different.
"I mean, we're all adults now. Now, we, like, obviously can afford our own rooms when we travel. So no more sharing rooms."